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. >> ruth, let me ask you about the fiscal cliff because within the hour john boehner was on the floor and said his meeting was nice. >> cordial. >> where are the cuts? both sides saying that the other has not been specific enough about what they're willing to put on the table. the calendar now is the real enemy. they have to get some kind of outline together or else it's going to be a legislative agreement to create another commission and tregers down the road, and that is going to freak the markets. >> we'll see how freaked the markets get. you may have better insight into that than i do. also, it's not just the calendar is an enemy. the desire to have the other side take the leap first is the enemy, and also, i think keep your eye on the debt ceiling. the president's desire to wrap this in the republicans desire to kick that can down the road and have perhaps more leverage in later debt ceiling negotiations could end up also being something that makes it very difficult to reach closure here by the time we all want to go away for the holiday. >> you can say that again. ruth marcus, t
. >> ruth, let me ask you about the fiscal cliff because within the hour john boehner was on the floor and said his meeting was nice. >> cordial. >> where are the cuts? both sides saying that the other has not been specific enough about what they're willing to put on the table. the calendar now is the real enemy. they have to get some kind of outline together or else it's going to be a legislative agreement to create another commission and tregers down the road, and that is...
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that is how john boehner described the fiscal cliff negotiations. it is not painful until the very end of the year. how this benefits the company. adam: the note dropped 7.7%, the lowest rate since december 2008. that is just a headline. let's get to nicole petallides. the traders are reading a bit into this report. nicole: the first thing they noted when i came in here, a lot of them are talking about the fact that the prior month had been revised lower. the prior month which seemed like they were good news, in fact, were not as good as they seemed. they take these numbers with a grain of salt. the dow, nasdaq and s&p are mixed today. the dow is up about one third of 1%. what is interesting, this will be our third wedding week in a row. they have not been dramatic moves, but last week was pretty slots. jpmorgan and bank of america are some names on the dow that are holding on pretty nicely. the tech heavy nasdaq down one half of 1%. adam: a lot of people watching that jobs number. thank you very much. dennis: according to today's jobs report, the u
that is how john boehner described the fiscal cliff negotiations. it is not painful until the very end of the year. how this benefits the company. adam: the note dropped 7.7%, the lowest rate since december 2008. that is just a headline. let's get to nicole petallides. the traders are reading a bit into this report. nicole: the first thing they noted when i came in here, a lot of them are talking about the fact that the prior month had been revised lower. the prior month which seemed like they...
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the fiscal cliff is hanging on the market. as soon as you see john boehner talk for obama it doesn't matter. the market seems to come off of that news. traders have got to look out if there's a joint announcement, chances are they're close to a deal, we will see the market higher. look out for that. dave: let's get off of stocks and deal with oil. we see oil slipping a bit and you see a point at which you might stop and that is $84.50. that is the point we have got to look at coming in next week as the starting point for this drop. phil: we have come down to that range several times over the last few weeks and that is when you had highest level supply out there and you didn't really have much geopolitical risk. we start to come back to that mode so we will scale back to that level before things heat up in the middle east and we have supply crunches due to the cold weather ahead of us. >> next week we have the final fit meeting of the year. the jobs report and everything we have been seeing. phil: we will see the fed continue o
the fiscal cliff is hanging on the market. as soon as you see john boehner talk for obama it doesn't matter. the market seems to come off of that news. traders have got to look out if there's a joint announcement, chances are they're close to a deal, we will see the market higher. look out for that. dave: let's get off of stocks and deal with oil. we see oil slipping a bit and you see a point at which you might stop and that is $84.50. that is the point we have got to look at coming in next...
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." >> as the fiscal cliff pressure goes on, whether john boehner has the votes to get a deal through. they have ads aimed at house republicans. one of boehner's colleagues is not exactly rejecting the idea of challenging him with a gavel. we will dig into that. overseas, north korea fires off another rocket. we will have the latest on what the pentagon and the world is saying about this closed off country's capability to launch a long range rweapon. plus 65 years of history making by our friends at "meet the press." the longest running television show. on the planet. from a deep dive also into the kennedy legacy and the man who laid the foundation for a whole bunch of folks in public life. good morning from washington. it's wednesday, december 12th, 12-12-12. my kids have never been so excited about a date. let's get right to my first read of the morning. one step forward, two steps back. that's probably the best way to describe the fiscal talks between president obama and house speaker john boehner. with christmas less than two weeks away, the white house is faced with the same key q
." >> as the fiscal cliff pressure goes on, whether john boehner has the votes to get a deal through. they have ads aimed at house republicans. one of boehner's colleagues is not exactly rejecting the idea of challenging him with a gavel. we will dig into that. overseas, north korea fires off another rocket. we will have the latest on what the pentagon and the world is saying about this closed off country's capability to launch a long range rweapon. plus 65 years of history making by...
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of the fiscal cliff. we're just days before the congress and the white house has to hammer out a deal or everyone's going to suffer the consequences. emily, what have you learned about today's meeting? >> allison we know that today's meeting was not on the schedule today. so that means we have to rely on the word from the white house deputy press secretary and a congressional staffer which happens to be the exact same words. they released two separate statements, both identical and this is the statement. it says this afternoon the president and speaker boehner met at the white house to discuss efforts to resolve the fiscal cliff. we're not reading out details of the constitution, but the lines of communication remain. on wednesday, you'll remember a source familiar with the conversation said they did speak by phone, at that point it was the first time in a week they had done so. no reported breakthrough then. and then on monday, the president and speaker were at the same event together. it was a black tie
of the fiscal cliff. we're just days before the congress and the white house has to hammer out a deal or everyone's going to suffer the consequences. emily, what have you learned about today's meeting? >> allison we know that today's meeting was not on the schedule today. so that means we have to rely on the word from the white house deputy press secretary and a congressional staffer which happens to be the exact same words. they released two separate statements, both identical and this...
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i think that this mania for a fiscal cliff deal is disturbing but i think the president could say -- promise virtually anything at this point. i don't think he gets a deal because john boehner has crazy member who is will never let him to agree to the tax rates the president will hold the line on and he's kind of safe in that way because i don't think that there will be a deal. >> amen, joan. thank you very much. honored to have you on the show. >> honored to be here. >>> straight ahead, for all the talk on china, policy expert said their gain could be ours, too. the guest spot is next. but when i was in an accident... i was worried the health care system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. so i never missed a beat. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. i get congested. but now, with zyrtec-d®, i have the proven allergy relief of zyrtec®, plus a powerful decongestant. zyrtec-d® lets me breath freer, so i can love the air. [ male announcer ] zyrtec-d®. behind the pharmacy counter. no prescription needed. >>> the chinese dragon is
i think that this mania for a fiscal cliff deal is disturbing but i think the president could say -- promise virtually anything at this point. i don't think he gets a deal because john boehner has crazy member who is will never let him to agree to the tax rates the president will hold the line on and he's kind of safe in that way because i don't think that there will be a deal. >> amen, joan. thank you very much. honored to have you on the show. >> honored to be here. >>>...
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. >> the house speaker, john boehner, is speaking now on the house floor regarding the fiscal cliff. let's take a listen. >> beyond 1:50 p.m. today. >> the speaker of the house for five minutes. >> the speaker, last week republicans made a serious offer to avert the fiscal cliff, and most of it was based on testimony given last year by president clinton's former chief of staff erskine bolles. as he said on sunday, we have to cut spending. well, he is right. washington has a spending problem. let's be honest, we're broke, and the plan that we've offered is consistent with the president's call for a balanced approach. a lot of people know that the president and i met on sunday. it was a nice meeting. cordal. we're still waiting for the white house to identify what spending cuts the president is willing to make as part of the balanced approach that he promised the american people. you know, where are the president's spending cuts? the longer the white house slow walks this process, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. here's what we do know. we know that the president wants
. >> the house speaker, john boehner, is speaking now on the house floor regarding the fiscal cliff. let's take a listen. >> beyond 1:50 p.m. today. >> the speaker of the house for five minutes. >> the speaker, last week republicans made a serious offer to avert the fiscal cliff, and most of it was based on testimony given last year by president clinton's former chief of staff erskine bolles. as he said on sunday, we have to cut spending. well, he is right. washington...
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and with just 12 days to hanging our stockings by the chimney and 20 days until the dreaded fiscal cliff, there's a distinct chill in the air. after the exchange of new offers, the president phones john boehner last night for one what aide described as a tense call. the speaker today, he had a bit of trouble finding just the right word. >> the president and i had a deliberate talk. i didn't say it was tense. the president and i had a pretty frank conversation. >> okay, well, whether it was tense or deliberate or frank, it's clear it wasn't cheerful or chummy. >> we spoke honestly and openly about the differences that we face. i was born with a glass half full. i remain the most optimistic person in this town. but we've got some serious differences. >> serious differences, indeed. democratic sources tell nbc that the reason for the tension was nestled in republicans' latest counter offer which included a permanent extension of tax cuts for the wealthy. yes, they're not just guilding the lily, they're gilding the gilded. >> holding hostage the middle income tax cuts to tax cuts for the wea
and with just 12 days to hanging our stockings by the chimney and 20 days until the dreaded fiscal cliff, there's a distinct chill in the air. after the exchange of new offers, the president phones john boehner last night for one what aide described as a tense call. the speaker today, he had a bit of trouble finding just the right word. >> the president and i had a deliberate talk. i didn't say it was tense. the president and i had a pretty frank conversation. >> okay, well, whether...
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. >>> is john boehner packing his parachute to jump off the fiscal cliff or will he figure it out? it's thursday, december 13th, and this is "now." i'm joy reid filling in for the lovely alex wagner. msnbc political analyst and editor at large at salon.com and also my pal joan walsh politico senior political editor maggie haberman and time assistant managing editor rona. with christmas less than two weeks away it's seeming more likely that america will see santa claus before it sees a deal on the fiscal cliff. the house majority and minority leaders issued a clear message today and yesterday don't book your plane tickets. >> we don't know if we would be home for the rest of hanukkah or christmas. let's really get real about this if we're going to have a solution, and let's stay here and sit at that table. >> we've said we're committed to staying here. we're going to stay here right up until christmas eve throughout the time and period before the new year. >> there are no talks scheduled today between the president and house speaker boehner. meanwhile, fed chairman ben bernanke, the
. >>> is john boehner packing his parachute to jump off the fiscal cliff or will he figure it out? it's thursday, december 13th, and this is "now." i'm joy reid filling in for the lovely alex wagner. msnbc political analyst and editor at large at salon.com and also my pal joan walsh politico senior political editor maggie haberman and time assistant managing editor rona. with christmas less than two weeks away it's seeming more likely that america will see santa claus before...
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the fiscal cliff deal to president obama. let's go right to rich edson for more on this breaking story. rich? >> aidesay this is an exchange of partia proposals to try to get the ball moving a little bit after some type of impasse over the last few days. this is basically an offer that the houseepublicans say they have just sent to the white house but there are still major difference ares here. this is from a boehner spokesperson saying the longer the white house slow-walks this process the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. there is major business lobbyist out there telling us right now the discussions are focusing on process. how do to it. not necessarily substance. so there are no details on what these offers exactly state. they're not even really getting out on capitol hill right now. so we're still watching it to maintain. again you've got the exchange of partial offers at least coming out of the white house and from house republicans but they still remain fairly far apart. melissa: rich, you have been right in
the fiscal cliff deal to president obama. let's go right to rich edson for more on this breaking story. rich? >> aidesay this is an exchange of partia proposals to try to get the ball moving a little bit after some type of impasse over the last few days. this is basically an offer that the houseepublicans say they have just sent to the white house but there are still major difference ares here. this is from a boehner spokesperson saying the longer the white house slow-walks this process...
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. >>> more now on the heavy duty negotiating taking place over the fiscal cliff. that's part of the reason that the president is in michigan bringing his message to the people and yesterday the president and house speaker john boehner brought their message to one another. the first one on one in more than three weeks. will there be a deal to include what's called serious entitlement reform and cuts? joining me now congresswoman bass of california. it's a pleasure to have you on again. >> thanks, thanks for having me on, tamron. >> absolutely. the president is in michigan. i want to read what senator dick durbin said on entitlements and reform. let me play it. >> i do believe there should be means testing and those of us with the higher income and retirement should pay more. that can be part of the solution but when you talk about raising the medicare eligibility age, there's a key question. what happens to the early retiree and the gap in coverage between the workplace and medicare? >> what are your concerns regarding entitlement reform? >> well, my main concern i
. >>> more now on the heavy duty negotiating taking place over the fiscal cliff. that's part of the reason that the president is in michigan bringing his message to the people and yesterday the president and house speaker john boehner brought their message to one another. the first one on one in more than three weeks. will there be a deal to include what's called serious entitlement reform and cuts? joining me now congresswoman bass of california. it's a pleasure to have you on again....
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boehner will reach an agreement to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> there is a growing group of folks that are looking at this and realizing that we don't have a lot of cards as it relates to the tax issue before year end. i mean, we have one house, that's it. the presidency and the senate and the democrats' hands. >> coming up, here congressman chris van holland, the top house democrat in these talks. >> along with bill daley, the former white house chief of staff who prided over the last round of budget negotiations. in the meantime, the anti-union fight, which is michigan. the heart and soul of the labor movement. after saying it was their best prank ever, are these crocodile tears? the aussie dj's are all apologies now that the nurse has tragically committed suicide. >> i mean, personally i'm -- >> the thought that we may have played a part in that is gut wrenching. >> and speaking of tears, "saturday night live" spoofed the fiscal cliff talks this week in that opening skit. president obama says he is giving in to republicans to save boehner face. >> you know what, republicans, you win
boehner will reach an agreement to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> there is a growing group of folks that are looking at this and realizing that we don't have a lot of cards as it relates to the tax issue before year end. i mean, we have one house, that's it. the presidency and the senate and the democrats' hands. >> coming up, here congressman chris van holland, the top house democrat in these talks. >> along with bill daley, the former white house chief of staff who prided over...
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when it comes to the fiscal cliff that is threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> the house speaker had nothing of substance to say about this week's phone conversation with the president. >> the phone call was pleasant, but was just more of the same. the conversations that the staff had yesterday, just more of the same. it's time for the president if he's serious to come back to us with a counteroffer. >> boehner says the president is not being a helpful negotiator, even though the president apparently designed the negotiating sessions at boehner's request. according to "the new york times," boehner insisted the talks include only himself and the president of the united states. boehner wanted senate democrats and nancy pelosi out of the discussions. democratic senator dick durbin told the times this is now the speaker and the president working this through. democratic leaders say they are satisfied with the briefings that they continue to receive. nancy pelosi seems perfectly happy putting pressure on the republicans. >> why are we not
when it comes to the fiscal cliff that is threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> the house speaker had nothing of substance to say about this week's phone conversation with the president. >> the phone call was pleasant, but was just more of the same. the conversations that the staff had yesterday, just more of the same. it's time for the president if he's serious to come back to us with a counteroffer. >> boehner says the...
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no discernible progress toward breaking the fiscal cliff stalemate. mr. obama left that drama behind and told supporters in suburban detroit the fiscal cliff is serious business. >> if congress doesn't act soon, meaning in the next few weeks, starting on january 1st, everybody's going to see their income taxes go up. >> reporter: boehner and house republicans want to preserve all the bush era tax rates due to expire at year's end, shielding everyone from a tax increase. mr. obama wants to raise them for households earning more than $250,000 a year. he has so far resisted gop demands for spending cuts to health care or education. >> i'm not going to have a situation where the wealthiest among us, including folks like me, get to keep all our tax breaks and then we're asking students to pay higher student loans. >> reporter: even so, democrats worry mr. obama might cave to republicans, their biggest fear, the president will do what he considered in 2011, raise the eligibility age for medicare, a top house democrat monday warned the white house to tread light
no discernible progress toward breaking the fiscal cliff stalemate. mr. obama left that drama behind and told supporters in suburban detroit the fiscal cliff is serious business. >> if congress doesn't act soon, meaning in the next few weeks, starting on january 1st, everybody's going to see their income taxes go up. >> reporter: boehner and house republicans want to preserve all the bush era tax rates due to expire at year's end, shielding everyone from a tax increase. mr. obama...
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boehner just took the floor in talking about the fiscal cliff. let's listen in. >> mr. speaker, i rise today to recognize victor dhi dhi qar lor receiving -- jenna: well, maybe i jinxed things. [laughter] i was told that he was speaking on the floor. we saw him come up, but sometimes they need to do a few different orders of business before they actually get to the topic, so i apologize for charlie gasparino who was giving us an overview of where we really stand here in the financial system, and that does play into this fiscal crisis, because one of the big questions with the fiscal cliff crisis or negotiations is how big of an impact will it really be to this economy overall, ours and the global economy? so as we continue to watch the business on the floor of the house, we'll bring you back there when speaker boehner does, indeed, address the fiscal cliff. rick: overseas now, and we're going to move to cairo, egypt, where egypt's army is begin bracing for -- again bracing for more protests after the showdown intensifies. many egyptians are afrai
boehner just took the floor in talking about the fiscal cliff. let's listen in. >> mr. speaker, i rise today to recognize victor dhi dhi qar lor receiving -- jenna: well, maybe i jinxed things. [laughter] i was told that he was speaking on the floor. we saw him come up, but sometimes they need to do a few different orders of business before they actually get to the topic, so i apologize for charlie gasparino who was giving us an overview of where we really stand here in the financial...
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martha: the fiscal cliff, president obama and house speaker john boehner set to have a face-to-face meeting, one-on-one. we're waiting to hear from speaker boehner in just about 50 minutes away now. we'll bring you that live. bill: also, it has been 40 years, four full decades since the last man stepped on the moon. that was an american. his name is gene cernan. we'll talk to hem this hour. the last person to see the moon's craters up close and personal. >> ♪ i was stroeling on the moon one day, in a merry, merry of month of -- december. >> may, may. ♪ much to my surprise a pair of eyes, -- >> this is a neat way to travel. [ female announcer ] food, meet flavor. flavor, meet food. it's time for swanson flavor boost. concentrated broth in easy to use packets. mix it into skillet dishes, for an instant dose of... hell-o! [ female announcer ] get recipes at flavorboost.com. bill: we now have a verdict for a bus driver on trial for manslaughter. it will be revealed this morning although the verdict was reached yesterday because a juror had to leave the courthouse for a doctor's appointment.
martha: the fiscal cliff, president obama and house speaker john boehner set to have a face-to-face meeting, one-on-one. we're waiting to hear from speaker boehner in just about 50 minutes away now. we'll bring you that live. bill: also, it has been 40 years, four full decades since the last man stepped on the moon. that was an american. his name is gene cernan. we'll talk to hem this hour. the last person to see the moon's craters up close and personal. >> ♪ i was stroeling on the moon...
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what do you tell john boehner about negotiations to avert the fiscal cliff. >> the public spoke with this election. the republicans lost. and that means that they need to be the ones to come to the table, and they need to demonstrate that they can compromise. i don't think there is any question that this president has attempted over and over and over again to come to the table to compromise, you know, cut $1.6 trillion, you know, out of the budget cuts when the republicans held these guys up with the debt ceiling debate this last year 2011. for boehner, you know, where i feel he is losing credibility, one is by being, you know, beaten up by eric can'tor, two by refuse to go put up specifics and saying to the president of the united states you need to put up spending cuts. on needs to show leadship. >> without question. without question >> bill: you are right. that was the romney plan. the american people have spoken. they wanted the obama plan. >> his respect and popularity would go through the roof. >> president jim hoffa next. >> this is "the bill press show." [ music ] every day p
what do you tell john boehner about negotiations to avert the fiscal cliff. >> the public spoke with this election. the republicans lost. and that means that they need to be the ones to come to the table, and they need to demonstrate that they can compromise. i don't think there is any question that this president has attempted over and over and over again to come to the table to compromise, you know, cut $1.6 trillion, you know, out of the budget cuts when the republicans held these guys...
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house speaker john boehner and his aides were quietly conducting behind the scenes fiscal cliff talks with the white house. on capitol hill for one day at least, all was pretty quiet. posturing and finger pointing kind of stopped. cnn political reporter shannon travis joins us now live from washington. what's the the latest on the talks or the silence? >> the silence seems to be golden, john. remember last week when all the players involved seem to be posturing and positioning and talking about negotiations? not so much, at least in the past few days. we know president obama and house speaker john boehner had a one-on-one meeting, right, on sunday, their first since mid-november. what were the details from that meeting and from the ongoing discussions? they're not really -- both sides are not really being forthcoming with what the substance of those conversations, both sides yesterday, the white house and the republican leadership put out statements. they're essentially the same. i'll read just one from boehner's press secretary. discussions with the white house are taking place but w
house speaker john boehner and his aides were quietly conducting behind the scenes fiscal cliff talks with the white house. on capitol hill for one day at least, all was pretty quiet. posturing and finger pointing kind of stopped. cnn political reporter shannon travis joins us now live from washington. what's the the latest on the talks or the silence? >> the silence seems to be golden, john. remember last week when all the players involved seem to be posturing and positioning and talking...
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. ♪ >>> producer john tower, we have our replacements for fiscal cliff. please only read the clean ones. >> jason writes, money boo boo. calvin, pricey precipice. i like this one. allen, monetary manhole. >> monetary manhole. we're getting stripper names and other categories we don't want to get into. great show, everyone. "morning joe" starts right now. > ♪ and i'm free ♪ free falling >>> you know, it's a special time of the year. we've been looking forward to it for months now. and everywhere you go, you can see the twinkle in little children's eyes because they know that in just a few short weeks, ♪ the fiscal cliff is coming to town ♪ merry cliffmas. and with a dramatic name like fiscal cliff, it's got to be exciting. jim? >> the president's asking for $1.6 trillion in revenue. >> $600 billion in tax hikes. >> entitlement reform. >> dividends and capital gains. >> discretionary spending. [ cheers and applause ] >> i'm up. what happened? is it over? [ bleep ] >>> good morning. it's wednesday, december 12th. look at that shot of new york city. >
. ♪ >>> producer john tower, we have our replacements for fiscal cliff. please only read the clean ones. >> jason writes, money boo boo. calvin, pricey precipice. i like this one. allen, monetary manhole. >> monetary manhole. we're getting stripper names and other categories we don't want to get into. great show, everyone. "morning joe" starts right now. > ♪ and i'm free ♪ free falling >>> you know, it's a special time of the year. we've been...
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so this weekend is the fiscal cliff. >> gretchen: because it takes a while to write the bills. >> eric: and has to originate in the house and right now, john boehner and president obama are miles apart allegedly. it doesn't look like they're gotting any closer. so it's got to go to the house, then gets sent, assuming it passes, to the senate, gets marked up and has to be agreed upon in committees and conference and then eventually gets signed by the president. >> steve: it just takes time. >> eric: there is a holiday. >> gretchen: somebody who had to handle something similarly about a decade ago was rudy guiliani when he was mayor of new york city. he was faced with a circumstance of do i raise taxes? do i cut spending? do i do a combination of both? he was on hannity last night explaining what he ultimately decided to do. >> i was given a report, report said, you have to raise taxes across the board. said nothing about reducing spending. and i said to myself, i wasn't an economic expert then. i became one after being mayor of new york. and i said, this doesn't make sense. if i raise t
so this weekend is the fiscal cliff. >> gretchen: because it takes a while to write the bills. >> eric: and has to originate in the house and right now, john boehner and president obama are miles apart allegedly. it doesn't look like they're gotting any closer. so it's got to go to the house, then gets sent, assuming it passes, to the senate, gets marked up and has to be agreed upon in committees and conference and then eventually gets signed by the president. >> steve: it...
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cliff negotiations. cnn has just learned that house republican leaders have sent the white house a counteroffer on tax and entitlement reform. let's bring in our capitol hill senior correspondent dana bash who's got the details. what have we learned? >> we learned that, as you said, the republicans have sent to the white house an offer that they describe as something that is significant with regard to tax and entitlement reform. of course, those are the two tranches that we're talking about here. they are being very -- holding their cards very close to the vest in terms of what specifics these are but apparently it's a counteroffer to something the white house sent to them yesterday. we don't know the details. this is good news for both sides. republicans saying earlier that the white house has to give them more spending cuts. but this is really key because the first thing they have to do, wolf, is get those top line numbers. they are not talking specifics, what kind of tax rates, how much to do. they ar
cliff negotiations. cnn has just learned that house republican leaders have sent the white house a counteroffer on tax and entitlement reform. let's bring in our capitol hill senior correspondent dana bash who's got the details. what have we learned? >> we learned that, as you said, the republicans have sent to the white house an offer that they describe as something that is significant with regard to tax and entitlement reform. of course, those are the two tranches that we're talking...
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and avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. and they only have 19 days left. at the same time, the president's short list for secretary of state is even shorter right now, now that the ambassador susan rice has taken her name out of the running to replace hillary clinton. our chief white house correspondent jessica yellin and our senior congressional correspondent, dana bash, they are both standing by. jessica, first to you on the obama/b obama/boehner meeting that's going on what are you hearing? >> the meeting began 50 minutes ago in the oval office, and the purpose of this 11th hour meeting is to see if they can find a breakthrough. to see if there is any way that they can reach a deal in the 11th hour, wolf. for the speaker, that would mean essentially if he can get more spending cuts from the president. if there is a way they can achieve entitlement reform and enough of a spending agreement that would make it worth the speaker's while and able to sell it to his base. for the president, it means, will the speaker give on ta
and avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. and they only have 19 days left. at the same time, the president's short list for secretary of state is even shorter right now, now that the ambassador susan rice has taken her name out of the running to replace hillary clinton. our chief white house correspondent jessica yellin and our senior congressional correspondent, dana bash, they are both standing by. jessica, first to you on the obama/b obama/boehner meeting that's going on what are you hearing?...
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dear john. >> we have reached an agreement to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> ho, ho, ho. i like the bells, too. let's ring some bells. >> president obama on thursday lit the national christmas tree or as fox news reported it, obama insults israel. >> what are reteaching in south korean schools? >> of course, he sang his gangnam style for his christmas in washington special. >> if you're dancing right now, doing this dance, stop. >> back to the electric slide. >> if brian were three to four feet taller. >> the leg is hard. >> i repeat, zero tax increases. now, why would i do that? i had the leverage. simply put, i felt sorry for this man. >> there are a lot of things that are possible, but none of it is going to be possible if the president insists on his position. >> they've taken by milk and thrown it in the garbage. >> how much juice does boehner have? back in the day you could really twist arms -- >> jumped out and pelted me with eggs, rotten eggs. >> he can be the speaker of a bloc of republicans working with democrats or he can be the speaker of the hard right. >> yo
dear john. >> we have reached an agreement to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> ho, ho, ho. i like the bells, too. let's ring some bells. >> president obama on thursday lit the national christmas tree or as fox news reported it, obama insults israel. >> what are reteaching in south korean schools? >> of course, he sang his gangnam style for his christmas in washington special. >> if you're dancing right now, doing this dance, stop. >> back to the electric...
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. >>> americans want action when it comes to the fiscal cliff. john, you'll give us some of the highlights, but with what we've told them about what will happen if we go over, i guess we shouldn't be too shocked that they don't want to go over. we've basically said there could be a recession, there could be millions of job losses and everything else. so i guess we probably shouldn't be surprised by that. >> no, we shouldn't. they've gotten the message. they've absorbed it. we've asked in the survey how serious a problem is the fiscal cliff? and you get 68% of the people saying it's a very serious problem, which tells you something when you're talking about something abstract like tax and budget politics which people don't ordinarily pay attention to. they've gotten it. but what we're seeing in this poll, joe, is the after glow of the election. typically when presidents get re-elected, the partisan fighting stops. their numbers rise. the president's approval rating 53%. when you ask, who do you trust to handle the fiscal cliff, it shows how the pr
. >>> americans want action when it comes to the fiscal cliff. john, you'll give us some of the highlights, but with what we've told them about what will happen if we go over, i guess we shouldn't be too shocked that they don't want to go over. we've basically said there could be a recession, there could be millions of job losses and everything else. so i guess we probably shouldn't be surprised by that. >> no, we shouldn't. they've gotten the message. they've absorbed it. we've...
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>>> but we begin with the latest on the fiscal cliff. republicans made another counteroffer but it's reportedly not much different from their first offer. though we don't have specifics, we do know the president and john boehner talked on the phone last night and that call, according to a republican familiar with it, was tense and lasted just 15 minutes. i want to bring in real clear politics reporter aaron mcpike and david hawkings, editor of the cq roll call daily briefing. good morning. so president obama sat down with barbara walters last night. here's what he said. >> most important thing we can do is make sure the middle class taxes do not go up on january 1st and i'm pretty confident that republicans would not hold middle class taxes hostage to try to protect tax cuts for high income individuals. >> so he's confident. is it almost a foregone conclusion, do you think, david, that this is going to be the first piece of the puzzle that falls into place? >> i'm pretty confident that that's going to have to be the first piece of the pu
>>> but we begin with the latest on the fiscal cliff. republicans made another counteroffer but it's reportedly not much different from their first offer. though we don't have specifics, we do know the president and john boehner talked on the phone last night and that call, according to a republican familiar with it, was tense and lasted just 15 minutes. i want to bring in real clear politics reporter aaron mcpike and david hawkings, editor of the cq roll call daily briefing. good...
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over the so-called fiscal cliff stand. for the first time in a while the president has no public events today. on his agenda he has spent the last few weeks as you know on this relentless pr campaign to talk about it. and his lack of a tuesday to do list adds punch to reports like this one in the "wall street journal" with the headline talks take positive turn. >> john boehner, sitting down with the president, seems these two men are getting the job done, from what we hear. >> it is the serious business because they've got to come to a framework at the end of this week if they're going to get it written in time and passed in time so they all don't have to spend christmas in washington. >> that's right,er. wants to get out of town for the holidays. we are book now with our political power panel. msnbc contributor ron reagan and republican strategist. this is where things stand. last night the president's team called boehner, asked for more details on taxes. boehner's office says that they want more details on spending cuts.
over the so-called fiscal cliff stand. for the first time in a while the president has no public events today. on his agenda he has spent the last few weeks as you know on this relentless pr campaign to talk about it. and his lack of a tuesday to do list adds punch to reports like this one in the "wall street journal" with the headline talks take positive turn. >> john boehner, sitting down with the president, seems these two men are getting the job done, from what we hear....
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. >>> and we want to bring you up to date on the latest on the fiscal cliff. still closing in on american families, now 20 days from today. well, today, speaker of the house john boehner said he and president obama still have serious differences and warned republicans not to make any plans for the holidays. they may be hunkering down in washington, negotiating over christmas. >>> and now, abc's barbara walters is back tonight with another exclusive interview. this time, secretary of state hillary clinton. who is about to leave office, after traveling almost a million miles to nearly 100 countries. and everyone asking, does she still dream of the presidency? barbara is here right now. barbara? >> reporter: and that is the question, diane. as hillary clinton winds down her time as secretary of state, traveling the globe, we sat down together and i asked her that question, that's on everybody's mind. what's next? what most people are asking now about you is, will you consider running for president in 2016? would you just like to make your declaration now? we coul
. >>> and we want to bring you up to date on the latest on the fiscal cliff. still closing in on american families, now 20 days from today. well, today, speaker of the house john boehner said he and president obama still have serious differences and warned republicans not to make any plans for the holidays. they may be hunkering down in washington, negotiating over christmas. >>> and now, abc's barbara walters is back tonight with another exclusive interview. this time,...
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hike as part of the fiscal cliff deal. look at the numbers from the "new york times" to see why. there are 234 house republican there's this 113th congress. 85% of them won re-election easily with at least 55% of the vote. and almost all were re-elect we'd the promise not to raise taxes. so what is their obligation to their voters and can john boehner make a switch palatable? i'm joined now by former ohio governor ted strickland and former campaign manager for mike huckabee chip satsman. good morning. >> good morning. >> what do the lawmakers owe their constituents on the promise not to raise tax she's. >> i think they owe the country. good governance. and obviously every member of congress has an obligation to their particular district and their particular constituents, but they also have a larger obligation, i believe, to the well-being of the country as a total. and so we are in a situation where some difficult decisions have to be made, but i believe the well being of the country must take precedent over every other co
hike as part of the fiscal cliff deal. look at the numbers from the "new york times" to see why. there are 234 house republican there's this 113th congress. 85% of them won re-election easily with at least 55% of the vote. and almost all were re-elect we'd the promise not to raise taxes. so what is their obligation to their voters and can john boehner make a switch palatable? i'm joined now by former ohio governor ted strickland and former campaign manager for mike huckabee chip...
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silence about the fiscal cliff. the president and the house speaker john boehner holding closed door meetings to work out a deal or try to. 21 days and counting away from tax hikes and spending cuts going into affect. and congress breaks for christmas on friday. here is where things stand. the president hitting the road to sell his tax plan to -- at a truck plant to workers in michigan. and there are fiscal cliff talks and on capitol hill for a single day, all was quiet. that's always bad news if you are a political reporter, shannon travis live in washington, d.c.. there are some people who say well, let's read into the silence, because that's all we're getting and it's good news. do you feel that way? >> could be potentially good news. there is this notion of not negotiating through the media. the stakes are high, puts pressure on both sides. so on? that sense, as much as we would love to know what's going on in these discussions, it might be good to take some of the pressure off. i will read a statement from hous
silence about the fiscal cliff. the president and the house speaker john boehner holding closed door meetings to work out a deal or try to. 21 days and counting away from tax hikes and spending cuts going into affect. and congress breaks for christmas on friday. here is where things stand. the president hitting the road to sell his tax plan to -- at a truck plant to workers in michigan. and there are fiscal cliff talks and on capitol hill for a single day, all was quiet. that's always bad news...
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. >> it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, and the white house has wasted another week. >> ainsley: why speaker john boehner says the president's my way or the highway approach is getting us nowhere. >> clayton: and washington state got high, but how the anti-drug program says it won't dare teach our middle schoolers about marijuana, it's not age appropriate. do they have a point? we report, you decide. >> eric: and super storm sandy couldn't wipe away his home, but something else did. >> she said are you sure your house is gone. miss, you misplace a pen or pencil, you don't misplace a house. >> clayton: vanished, that man will tell us how that house just vanished. "fox & friends" hour four starts right now. ♪ . [rooster crowing] >> welcome into "fox & friends" on this saturday morning, thanks so much for waking up with us. this is ainsley. >> ainsley: hi. >> clayton: in for ali and eric for dave and i'm the only one on the regular crew. >> ainsley: where did they go, to christmas parties and couldn't make it in? you never know we're focu
. >> it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, and the white house has wasted another week. >> ainsley: why speaker john boehner says the president's my way or the highway approach is getting us nowhere. >> clayton: and washington state got high, but how the anti-drug program says it won't dare teach our middle schoolers about marijuana, it's not age appropriate. do they have a point? we report, you decide. >> eric: and super storm...
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we need to not go over the fiscal cliff. we need to come to an agreement. and the president, i think, is working hard to get there. and very frankly, i think john boehner wants to get there. the issue is whether john boehner will have the support of a majority of his party, when and if, he gets there with the president. he had an agreement with the president over a year ago. that agreement fell apart, frankly, because he could not get the support of his own party. but it's necessary for us to come to a place where we will be able to adopt a fiscally sustainable, credible path for this country. that will give great confidence to the american people and will be, in my opinion, the single largest stimulus package that we could pass for the economy. >> congressman, let's talk a little bit about john boehner, because the deal he could have gotten last year was for republicans, at least, better. do you sense he could hold together his caucus? we are not getting a lot of readouts in terms of substance, but it sounds, quote, tense up there. >> as you pointed out, t
we need to not go over the fiscal cliff. we need to come to an agreement. and the president, i think, is working hard to get there. and very frankly, i think john boehner wants to get there. the issue is whether john boehner will have the support of a majority of his party, when and if, he gets there with the president. he had an agreement with the president over a year ago. that agreement fell apart, frankly, because he could not get the support of his own party. but it's necessary for us to...
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fiscal cliff negotiations are now in the hands of just two people. president obama and house speaker john boehner. abc's david kerley joins us live with the latest. david, we have a positive jobs report. better than expected. consumer confidence floated. >> reporter: they're using the jobs report right now, the obama administration. a little more fuel. and we are talking about two men now. it comes down to these two guys and a lot of jobs on the line. possible hiring freezes, furloughs if we go over the cliff. now, working for the cuts they will make if we do actually go over the cliff. a diner, middle-class taxpayers and the vice president, telling republicans a deal to extend tax cuts for all but the wealthy is easy. >> the president would probably have me sprint up to the hill to bring the bill down for him to sign. it can be done like that. >> reporter: not really. even though the two sides are talking, they aren't making much progress. remember that phone call between the president and the speaker a couple days ago? >> the phone call was pleasan
fiscal cliff negotiations are now in the hands of just two people. president obama and house speaker john boehner. abc's david kerley joins us live with the latest. david, we have a positive jobs report. better than expected. consumer confidence floated. >> reporter: they're using the jobs report right now, the obama administration. a little more fuel. and we are talking about two men now. it comes down to these two guys and a lot of jobs on the line. possible hiring freezes, furloughs if...
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finally, the fiscal funnies. saturday night live could not help spoofing the cliff and the talks that aren't really talks between president obama and house speaker john boehner. >> in order to get the support of the speaker, i agree there will be no tax increases. i repeat, zero tax increases. why give in? well, simply put, i felt sorry for this man. early this week i found my way into the congressional cafeteria and what do i see? john boehner sitting by himself all alone, not a single member of his party willing to share his company. he didn't even have any milk to drink because, well, tell them why, john? >> they tinked in my milk and threw it in the garbage. >> i'll see back here tomorrow at 121:00 a.m. eastern time. now with alex wagner, who is coming up, a live edition now from washington today. alex, you left me. i miss you. >> oh, thomas. i'll be back at the end of the week, my friend. >> by thursday, right? >> yes. perhapsly have resolved the whole fiscal cliff thing in the meantime. >> excellent. >> pre
finally, the fiscal funnies. saturday night live could not help spoofing the cliff and the talks that aren't really talks between president obama and house speaker john boehner. >> in order to get the support of the speaker, i agree there will be no tax increases. i repeat, zero tax increases. why give in? well, simply put, i felt sorry for this man. early this week i found my way into the congressional cafeteria and what do i see? john boehner sitting by himself all alone, not a single...
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talking again with 20 days to go until the fiscal cliff. major garrett is at the white house watching all the negotiations. major, good morning. >> reporter: well, good morning, norah, charlie, and gayle. lots of activity and where there's activity there's hope but not a lot of progress. speaker boehner and president obama talked by tell phone. i'm told the phone call did not go particularly well and they remain divided. they're going to allow business to go on until december 28th. the president remains confident a deal will get done. on monday the president gave republican as new offer, trimming his request for ten years of income tax revenue from $1.6 trillion to $1.4 trillion. he told republicans yesterday he's willing to put tax reform into the mix of negotiations. the republicans said the president is still asking for way too much in tax revenue and they always thought corporate tax reform would be part of the larger way. it's hard to come to a deal when one side officers concessions and the other side says the concessions are merely d
talking again with 20 days to go until the fiscal cliff. major garrett is at the white house watching all the negotiations. major, good morning. >> reporter: well, good morning, norah, charlie, and gayle. lots of activity and where there's activity there's hope but not a lot of progress. speaker boehner and president obama talked by tell phone. i'm told the phone call did not go particularly well and they remain divided. they're going to allow business to go on until december 28th. the...
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cliff fall-off point, the public will not equally blame the democrats or the republicans. they will blame the republicans. i don't think john boehner can do local tv hits and change people's minds. >> that's always, of course, the megaphone that the white house enjoys, and they add this to the schedule because they can tell day by day how it's tracking. >> sure. >> how is this going to affect issues coming up? for instance, immigration. >> well -- >> which the president said to "the des moines register" before the election, is one of his top priorities. >> i talked to people in the white house who are very familiar with the legislative agenda of the president, and they say comprehensive immigration reform -- we're not talking just the dream act that affects children and doesn't do anything about the 11 million. we're talking about putting 11 million people on a road to citizenship that the president is committed to this. it isn't just a political ploy to get hispanic votes, though it will. it's going to come out -- it's going to come up right after immigration. i'm sorry.
cliff fall-off point, the public will not equally blame the democrats or the republicans. they will blame the republicans. i don't think john boehner can do local tv hits and change people's minds. >> that's always, of course, the megaphone that the white house enjoys, and they add this to the schedule because they can tell day by day how it's tracking. >> sure. >> how is this going to affect issues coming up? for instance, immigration. >> well -- >> which the...
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cliff talks go sour, that john boehner might have a challenge for his speaker post. do you agree with that? >> i think speaker boehner is extremely strong in his position. he's been very, very smart, including the republican leadership, in his negotiations. while it's just him and president obama, he has them inside the room before he goes and meets with the president, he talks to them and they reflect the views of the entire conference. the key here with the entire deal is that the devil is in the details. once these details come out, it's going to take arm-twisting by both sides. it's going to take calls from the president and democrats. it's going to take the speaker to make sure republican conference members are falling into line and that's where we're going to see, when the rubber meets the road, if this deal can get done. remember, you know, health care reform by the president passed on december 24th. so we do have a president there just going right up to christmas. and if it doesn't happen at christmastime, they'll be coming back before the new year. and i'm a
cliff talks go sour, that john boehner might have a challenge for his speaker post. do you agree with that? >> i think speaker boehner is extremely strong in his position. he's been very, very smart, including the republican leadership, in his negotiations. while it's just him and president obama, he has them inside the room before he goes and meets with the president, he talks to them and they reflect the views of the entire conference. the key here with the entire deal is that the devil...
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how is john boehner performing as fiscal cliff negotiator. there's a petition drive demanding the president and lawmakers resolve the crisis or else. you are watching weekends with alex witt. wasn't my daughter's black bean soup spectacular? [ man thinking ] oh, this gas. those antacids aren't working. oh no, not that, not here! [ male announcer ] antacids don't relieve gas. gas-x is designed to relieve gas. gas-x. the gas xperts. well, having a ton of locations doesn't hurt. and a santa to boot! [ chuckles ] right, baby. oh, sir. that is a customer. oh...sorry about that. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. fedex office. plays a key role throughout our lives. one a day men's 50+ is a complete multivitamin designed for men's health concerns as we age. it has 7 antioxidants to support cell health. one a day men's 50+. when you give a child a toy, it has to work. ♪ make just one someone happy and when it's a toys for tots child, well, what could be more important? so this year, every hasbro toy donated to toys for tots will be p
how is john boehner performing as fiscal cliff negotiator. there's a petition drive demanding the president and lawmakers resolve the crisis or else. you are watching weekends with alex witt. wasn't my daughter's black bean soup spectacular? [ man thinking ] oh, this gas. those antacids aren't working. oh no, not that, not here! [ male announcer ] antacids don't relieve gas. gas-x is designed to relieve gas. gas-x. the gas xperts. well, having a ton of locations doesn't hurt. and a santa to...
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these so-called fiscal cliff. these are some of the latest headlines on c-span radio. "washington journal" continues. host: phone numbers are up on the screen. we're going to go through the papers. no congress today. they're up for the weekend. they're scheduled adjournment date is december 14. everyone has an opinion and a fun little betting game, when will they adjourn, what will they do before they adjourn, what is going to happen? i'm going to go through a couple of papers before we get to your calls. this is the lead story in the "l.a. times" class morning. port strike part of a bigger fight. the eight-day strike that crippled one of the world's busiest ports reflected a clash that is playing out across the global shipping industry as ports and their unionized work forces gird for an era of briskly expanding foreign trade. the strike that shut down the ports of los angeles and long beach paralleled the generational skirmishes that have ripped through factory shops. cargo companies and ports want to cut costs
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he'll be meeting with some autoworkers, asking them to support his plan to avoid the fiscal cliff. yesterday the president invited house speaker john boehner to the white house for their first face-to-face meeting in weeks. neither party releasing any details of what transpired in that meeting. reuters is reporting the house republican offer issued last week, quote, remains the republican offer. speaker john boehner is still waiting for a new proposal from president obama, that is all uncording to an unnamed aide to the speaker. meanwhile some republicans are calling on speaker john boehner to give the president what he wants on taxes so the party can focus on cutting entitlement programs. >> a lot of people are putting forth a theory, and i actually think it has merit where you go ahead and give the president the 2% increase that he's talking about, the rate increase on the top 2%, and all of a sudden the shift goes back to entitlements. >> if speaker john boehner ends up with senator corker has just said he is we will get a large agreement. but speaker john boehner hasn't said th
he'll be meeting with some autoworkers, asking them to support his plan to avoid the fiscal cliff. yesterday the president invited house speaker john boehner to the white house for their first face-to-face meeting in weeks. neither party releasing any details of what transpired in that meeting. reuters is reporting the house republican offer issued last week, quote, remains the republican offer. speaker john boehner is still waiting for a new proposal from president obama, that is all uncording...
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should have won. >>> house speaker john boehner spoke by phone tuesday exchanging new fiscal cliff proposals. the president gave boehner a revised offer on monday and he went down a couple of hundred billion from 1.6 trillion to 1.4 trillion over ten years. in an exclusive interview with barbara walters, of "abc news," president obama says he still expects a deal before the end of the year. >> remain optimistic there are enough people of good will in this country families will be much better off when we get this done. the most important thing is make sure middle class taxes don't go up on january first and i'm pretty sure republicans would not hold middle class tax cuts hostage to protect tax cuts for high income individuals. >> prediction, are you going to be able to raise taxes yes or no? >> taxes will go up one way or another. the key is to make sure taxes go up on high end individuals, like you and me, barbara, we can afford it. >> you can see the rest of that interview on abc's 20/20 this friday. hopefully, you will hear barbara walters come pellingly say will be able to cut spending? d
should have won. >>> house speaker john boehner spoke by phone tuesday exchanging new fiscal cliff proposals. the president gave boehner a revised offer on monday and he went down a couple of hundred billion from 1.6 trillion to 1.4 trillion over ten years. in an exclusive interview with barbara walters, of "abc news," president obama says he still expects a deal before the end of the year. >> remain optimistic there are enough people of good will in this country...
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save on ground shipping at fedex office. >>> standoff on the fiscal cliff. house speaker boehner meeting with president obama at the white house. but what will it take to get a compromise deal? republican senator john thune will be our guest host for the hour. >> plus starwood hotel ceo frits van paaschen on the effects of the fiscal cliff and avoiding the european recovery model. >> we know big ben. >> parliament. >> the third hour of "squawk box" begins right now. >>> welcome back to "squawk box" here on cnbc. first in business worldwide i'm joe kernen along with becky quick. andrew ross sorkin is off today. we have a big lineup this hour. sitting in andrew's seat our guest host, senator john thune. he is with us for the hour to talk about the fiscal cliff. talk about jobs. and a lot more. we're also going to speak to the president of telemundo media. emilio row mano. we're going to convene an economic summit to tackle america's debt crisis and outline growth scenarios for 2013. in addition to solving our budget problems and the fiscal cliff, we're also go
save on ground shipping at fedex office. >>> standoff on the fiscal cliff. house speaker boehner meeting with president obama at the white house. but what will it take to get a compromise deal? republican senator john thune will be our guest host for the hour. >> plus starwood hotel ceo frits van paaschen on the effects of the fiscal cliff and avoiding the european recovery model. >> we know big ben. >> parliament. >> the third hour of "squawk box"...
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cliff. >> one possibility in all of this, simply no agreement. the impact on the government and every single american taxpayer. it's thursday, december 6th. >> announcer: from abc news, this is "world news now." >>> good thursday morning. >> morning. >> i'm paula faris. we did establish morning is spelled m-e-r-n-i-n-g. >> m-e-r-n-i-n-g. nicely done. >> "merning," everybody. >> i'm rob nelson. we'll get to the discouraging situation on the fiscal cliff in just a moment. and we do have even a visual this morning. >> not yet. >> going to wait for it? very high tech. >> so high tech. working on this prop all day. all morning. >> weeks of planning. >>> we also have a major development in the case of software mogul john mcafee he was actually arrested last night. and this morning, police are taking more action after he tried to seek asylum in guatemala. a strange story gets even stranger. again he is now under arrest. >> bizarre to the nth degree there. >> yeah. >>> also this morning -- weeding t
cliff. >> one possibility in all of this, simply no agreement. the impact on the government and every single american taxpayer. it's thursday, december 6th. >> announcer: from abc news, this is "world news now." >>> good thursday morning. >> morning. >> i'm paula faris. we did establish morning is spelled m-e-r-n-i-n-g. >> m-e-r-n-i-n-g. nicely done. >> "merning," everybody. >> i'm rob nelson. we'll get to the discouraging...